Does anyone have a rundown on how this works? Specifically I am looking at pistols and trying to decide if I should prioritize max damage or speed. I am going MPistoleer and BH Pistols so my pistol speed stat should be quite high when my temp is complete, but to what extent does that affect a weapons speed? If there is a guide or thread posted plz link as I have not been able to find it.

Thanks.

Actually got this from the carbine faq but it has everything you need:


The Actual Firing Speed calculation is:
[(100 - Player Mod) / 100] * Weapon Speed * Special Delay = Actual Speed

This equation works for all fighting professions. The Player Mod is from your Skill Sheet with bonuses up to +25 for Skill Enhancing Attachments. A pure Master Carbineer get +60 and then you can add Master Marksman for +65 for a maximum of +85/+90 without any Bounty Hunter skills. The Weapon Speed comes directly from the Examine Window of each weapon. The Special Delay is typically found in each profession's forum.

For example, lets take an average Laser Carbine at 2.4 speed with 45-280 damage using BurstShot1 in the beginning stages of Carbineer, +35 Carbine Speed:

A) [(100 - 35) / 100] * 2.4 * 2.0 = 3.12 sec Actual Speed.

Now lets move up to Master Carbineer using CrippleShot with the same weapon:

B) [(100 - 60) / 100] * 2.4 * 2.5 = 2.40 sec Actual Speed.

Now throw in +20 attachments and we begin to see large improvements:

C) [(100 - 80) / 100] * 2.4 * 2.5 = 1.20 sec Actual Speed.


The progression to faster firing speed is not linear. This of course rewards the Master levels more but at the same time makes leveling more difficult. Also NOTE as of this writing all professions CAN NOT fire faster than once per second with any weapon using any special.


The DPS calculation is:

{[(Min Damage + Max Damage) / 2] * Special Damage Modifier} / Actual Firing Speed = DPS before Mitigation, Armor, or Resists

The Min Damage and Max Damage are listed in the Examine Window for each weapon along with the the Weapon Speed number. The Special Damage Modifier should be listed with the Special Delay on each profession's forum. NOTE: careful attention must be paid to where the "Mysterious 1.5X" multiplier is added. As Carbineers we include the 1.5X into the Special Damage Modifier as Nova got the figures from ACTUAL in-game testing. Some other professions base their Specials off the "standard/default attack" which is 1.5 * Weapon Damage.

Lets continue the above examples to calculate DPS.

A) {[(45 + 280) / 2] * 6.0} / 3.12 = 312.5 DPS

B) {[(45 + 280) / 2] * 7.5} / 2.40 = 507.8 DPS

C) {[(45 + 280) / 2] * 7.5} / 1.20 = 1015.6 DPS

As you can see, the Speed greatly affects the amount of damage you can expect to do on any given creature/person. Please remember there are other factors to the actual damage done; damage type of weapon, armor piercing of weapon, armor rating of target, resist % of target, to hit %, and your accuracy.

Thanks Nicta.

I have a question though. My template will give me a pistol speed of 129. By this formula it would put my modified weapon speed negative regardless of weapon speed or delay. Does this mean you cap speed at 100?

Yes. When you have 100 speed you will fire a weapon with any speed stat, using any special, under whatever condition once each second. The crappy formula the game uses breaks down and it uses the once per second hard cap instead.

Good to know. Thank you!

It's actually pretty easy to hit the speed cap with the help of tapes well before master, at least for Pistoleer, since the pistol speeds are already all so low. A lot of people use the scout blaster at novice Pistoleer because its low speed stat means you hit the speed cap with specials much earlier, then progress to higher-damage, slower pistols after three or four boxes.

Accuracy is much more important to Pistoleer than speed. A Master Pistoleer (without Master Marksman) can easily hit the speed cap with a Krayt FWG5 or Republic Blaster. Any pistoleer can hit the speed cap with a gun that is 1.0 speed.